Kettle at Talend

Dear open source ETL friends,

today I met with the nice folks from Talend in their offices in Paris.  Contrary to what some of you might conclude from the sometimes heated technical debates on the internet, it was nice to hear that both the folks from Talend and myself have the same opinion on our position on the market: we don’t see each other as competitors. (**)

Some of you might think that this sounds a lot like a marketing slogan so let me expand upon this a bit.  The matter of fact is that Talend and Pentaho Data Integration are sufficiently different in conception, architecture and implementation that they are in fact two distinct choices on the ETL market.  While some people prefer one tool and some prefer another, the choice is there.  Having the opportunity to try out both tools for Free and to have this choice is one of the most important differentiators with the traditional closed source ETL companies.

Now, don’t get me wrong, obviously as the Pentaho Chief Data Integration, I think that our architecture is a lot better. 🙂  However, the people from Talend have the same opinion about their ETL tool.  That’s the way it should be.  This is a good and healthy thing.

That should not relieve us from our responsibility as good behaving citizens in Open Source land to at least try and find a common ground on certain issues.
If KDE and Gnome can agree on certain desktop standards, if Compiz and Beryl can join forces again after a rocky episode, anything should be possible.

So it was a pleasure to find out that indeed we did find some small points to work on together. I’m hoping we’ll be able to let you in on the details real soon.

I do hope that both communities read this message and act accordingly in the same sharing, cooperating and dignified fashion.  In that regard I want to remind my readers that Pentaho Data Integration was only possible thanks to the incredible work put into dozens of fine open source libraries.  I’m pretty sure that the same goes for Talend.

Think about it for a minute… We’re both outpacing and outselling the traditional closed source ETL vendors, probably by a factor of 10 to 1.  That is not because of our differences, but because our similarities.

Until next time,


(**) Driving home at 280km/h on the High Speed Train, I also came to the conclusion I really enjoyed that red wine during lunch 😉

4 thoughts on “Kettle at Talend”

  1. Hi Matt,

    There was space enough for 10 commercial ETL products : it comes to an evidence there will be space enough to 2 or more Open Source ETL platforms. I may also suggest situation is the same in the reporting area, between Pentaho and JasperSoft, or in Olap area between Mondrian and Palo.

    Each Open Source project will be “a must” on what they invested : high performance, ease of use, team-development capabilities, marketing/brand position, recognation from the comunity … no one can pretend to be the best on each category.

    On the other side, each customer will have its own decision grid. Taste and colour are not a subject of discussion, even if some arrangement sucks ! Same things happens in the wine area, where you can crash the taste of a crazy bottle of wine with a too-spicy meal …

    Have Fun !

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